tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post5645456531659045030..comments2024-03-29T09:11:58.393+01:00Comments on Grain de musc: 4711 NouvEAU Cologne: How do you say Kölnish Wasser in Mandarin?carmencanada /Grain de Muschttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04046101625425953248noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-31872117012675587602012-05-11T03:16:38.312+02:002012-05-11T03:16:38.312+02:00I guess it's only a matter of time before peop...I guess it's only a matter of time before people will be able to order up scents genetically tailored to their own noses - or that of their favored beholder! ~~nozknozAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-19099634658340079242012-05-10T22:29:03.153+02:002012-05-10T22:29:03.153+02:00Stephen, thank you so much for the information. Of...Stephen, thank you so much for the information. Of course my hypothesis about 4711 going for the Chinese market is no more than that... Nouveau Cologne is certainly light enough not to give offense in a culture where only very discreet personal fragrance is deemed acceptable.carmencanada /Grain de Muschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04046101625425953248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-78715157373936852322012-05-10T21:30:49.173+02:002012-05-10T21:30:49.173+02:00The Chinese for perfume is 香水(xiang shui), literal...The Chinese for perfume is 香水(xiang shui), literally perfumed water, so not too far from the original. Most supermarkets in China carry bottles of cologne for as little as 0.70 euro, and usually citrus and white musk blends that were quite light in effect. The Chinese themselves use very little personal scent, though homes I visited usually had some form of incense burning, especially if you didn't drop in unannounced.! There was quite a substantial trade in oudh wood in Guangzhou, where I lived last year, with many shops dealing in oudh pieces and, rarely, the oils. I had to decrease the quantity of scent I would normally use in Europe as it seemed to be generally frowned upon for men, and I would always be commented on!Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12273149136877804230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-72702144859960764872012-05-10T19:49:41.850+02:002012-05-10T19:49:41.850+02:00Nozknoz, it's both I think -- no perfumery mat...Nozknoz, it's both I think -- no perfumery material is purely used for its effect on other notes as far as I know, they all affect the actual smell.<br />As for being highly sensitive to types of notes, from what I understand a lot of this has got to do with our genetic makeup.carmencanada /Grain de Muschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04046101625425953248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-58071567464206241792012-05-10T14:12:56.667+02:002012-05-10T14:12:56.667+02:00Aha, I had thought they were maybe filling a parti...Aha, I had thought they were maybe filling a particular register of missing notes - providing a missing contrast - but it's about how they affect the other notes, more than how they smell by themselves?<br /><br />I'm definitely hyperosmic to some of the musks and woody ingredients. For example, in Guerlain Vetiver pour Elle and Chanel Eau Premiere, the musks overwhelm everything else for me, and in Timbuktu, the celery/cumin/sweat note predominates - I only sometimes get the fresh forest effect that many report. I find Timbuktu fascinating, but I'm afraid to wear it in public! ~~nozknozAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-72799020183411140002012-05-10T09:34:52.609+02:002012-05-10T09:34:52.609+02:00Nozknoz, I don't think the "spiky woods&q...Nozknoz, I don't think the "spiky woods" (Karanal, Ambrocenide, etc) are substitutes for oak moss at all, since they don't act in the same way. Their advantage is that they give enormous power and volume to scents. Unfortunately some people are hyperosmic to them: for me they literally prick the inside of my nose. This probably doesn't affect a significant percentage of the population since their use is so widespread. For all it's worth, the effect is not very strong in Nouveau Cologne.carmencanada /Grain de Muschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04046101625425953248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-37496011096891239472012-05-10T02:48:39.272+02:002012-05-10T02:48:39.272+02:00This was sounding very appealing to me until I got...This was sounding very appealing to me until I got to "spiky wood." It's so often an unwelcome surprise when I hold my wrist to my nose to get a good whiff of a new sample. The darned thing is everywhere; I wonder if it has become the go-to substitute for oakmoss or something else that IFRA banned?<br /> <br />I am very intrigued by the idea of new Chinese ingredients, so I will probably sample this anyway, and very much look forward to more new notes! ~~nozknozAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com