tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post3178597754126917995..comments2024-03-28T10:30:51.283+01:00Comments on Grain de musc: Vero Profumo Onda : A Story of Mud, Honey and Fleshcarmencanada /Grain de Muschttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04046101625425953248noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-46276234144848000812008-11-02T18:42:00.000+01:002008-11-02T18:42:00.000+01:00Thanks Alyssa. Thinking in terms of structure was ...Thanks Alyssa. Thinking in terms of structure was a conceptual leap for me -- it's already hard enough sometimes to pick out the notes without any training... But it's opening up a whole new dimension.carmencanada /Grain de Muschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04046101625425953248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-61753519938932157482008-11-02T18:28:00.000+01:002008-11-02T18:28:00.000+01:00A lovely review. I aspire to own more than a sampl...A lovely review. I aspire to own more than a sample of Onda one day. Also--I love thinking about perfume in terms of structure and time as well as in terms of notes, but those multiple dimensions are difficult to articulate and you did so beautifully. <BR/><BR/>And I'm always, always, glad to see Vero getting praise.Alyssahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08651065872724626149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-21868619863852954642008-10-30T16:27:00.000+01:002008-10-30T16:27:00.000+01:00Ines, do get them. They're all worth experiencing,...Ines, do get them. They're all worth experiencing, and like I said above, they're good value because of their concentration...<BR/>And thank you!carmencanada /Grain de Muschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04046101625425953248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-58569814527249915102008-10-30T12:45:00.000+01:002008-10-30T12:45:00.000+01:00Indeed it must be! LOL (although his πάντα ρεί quo...Indeed it must be! LOL (although his πάντα ρεί quote is the very essence of ephemera, right?)Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-71834104503912696172008-10-30T10:16:00.000+01:002008-10-30T10:16:00.000+01:00Absolutely beautiful post - it was great joy readi...Absolutely beautiful post - it was great joy reading it (and now I have to get myself some samples to try). :)Ineshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12119611878721554991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-82509921553281179102008-10-30T08:35:00.000+01:002008-10-30T08:35:00.000+01:00Hi Tom! I remember your writing on PST you couldn'...Hi Tom! I remember your writing on PST you couldn't wear Onda, and several of us commenting "why not?". I'm glad you changed your mind about it, but as I've said above, I agree it doesn't suit an everyday kind of mood...carmencanada /Grain de Muschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04046101625425953248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-14652884787228076892008-10-30T03:15:00.000+01:002008-10-30T03:15:00.000+01:00First off- you make me blush..Second- I loved read...First off- you make me blush..<BR/><BR/>Second- I loved reading your take; I actually changed my mind about this one. I originally thought of it as something that I wouldn't wear. Having gone back to it however, I think it's just something that I would wear to en event: it's just not a flip-flops and shorts kind of scent..tmp00https://www.blogger.com/profile/07394341047945443955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-6559687896292618352008-10-29T22:23:00.000+01:002008-10-29T22:23:00.000+01:00Thanks Helg! Actually, I did remember a tiny fragm...Thanks Helg! Actually, I did remember a tiny fragment of Heraclitus, but perhaps the most important: "Panta rhei", "everything flows". Do you think this is the first time in history Heraclitus is evoked in relation to perfumery, or what?carmencanada /Grain de Muschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04046101625425953248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-4123632633454132702008-10-29T21:05:00.000+01:002008-10-29T21:05:00.000+01:00And here I am to tip off my hat to you, dearest D,...And here I am to tip off my hat to you, dearest D, for a wonderful hommage to a great scent and the lovely woman who created it with so much passion and dedication (Vero, you rock!).<BR/><BR/>As to Heraclitus/Heraklit on the subject of whom I am summoned ;-) First of all, I love the thinking behind that "bark" painting, dear S, and secondly, no wonder Denyse you haven't read him, because mysterious as he was in his own life he has only left us with a 100 fragments of cryptic sentences or so, surviving as ad hoc citations from authors of the AD years! It's a case of the less one says, the more important they should be. <BR/>The body of his philosophy is analysed by contemporaries and followers (Cratylus mainly, as well as the Stoics and Pyrrhonists, notably Aenesidemus).<BR/><BR/>Since you so eloquently write of souls in relation to perfumes I will quote this: "If you went in search of it, you would not find the boundaries of the soul, though you traveled every road -so deep is its measure [=<I>Λόγος/logos</I>]". (DK22B45)<BR/>The clashing of opposites and the flux of cosmos surely has some bearing on the creative process (in general) and from eternal battle comes human progress: Now there's an idea!Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-672595988749436092008-10-29T15:42:00.000+01:002008-10-29T15:42:00.000+01:00I didn't know that artist, Stella. Thanks for the ...I didn't know that artist, Stella. Thanks for the link (though I'll have to find something in a less Germanic language, I'm afraid...).carmencanada /Grain de Muschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04046101625425953248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-776941114260977312008-10-29T15:39:00.000+01:002008-10-29T15:39:00.000+01:00Donanicola -- I must rush to read the Guet-Apens r...Donanicola -- I must rush to read the Guet-Apens review, it's a perfume I love dearly!<BR/>About Onda, you're right, it's a commitment. I ended up getting both that and Kiki, which is an easier daytime wear and puts me in a great mood to boot!<BR/>Aren't those big forest cats gorgeous? I have a thing for roundhead Siamese, but my love of felines is all-encompassing!carmencanada /Grain de Muschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04046101625425953248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-13977197399755854502008-10-29T15:07:00.000+01:002008-10-29T15:07:00.000+01:00This was the painting I was reminded of when readi...This was the painting I was reminded of when reading your review. Viewed in the large format one can spot the tiny little green germ of physis :)<BR/>http://www.gerhard-hoehme.de/bio-d2.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-30186406575549112732008-10-29T15:05:00.000+01:002008-10-29T15:05:00.000+01:00Oh wow. I'm in heaven today. Vetivresse reviews Gu...Oh wow. I'm in heaven today. Vetivresse reviews Guet Apens, The Shrine a vintage Guerlain and now, this. The Shrine's reviews sent me off to purchase samples from Vero Kern (and I must second your comment - they are generous samples given their strength)and Onda was my first love. It reminds me of the Rite of Spring (I'm sorry I have said this before). However I bought a bottle of Kiki because I came to love that too and it is a more wearable perfume for me in the sense that I can put it on and not forget it exactly but I'm not always thinking about it I'm just enjoying it. Onda is, to borrow a dear perfume friend's phrase, a commitment. Donanicola ps love lunarose's description of her beloved Kiki. I'd love a Mainecoon and a Turkish Van. I do adore my english moggies though!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-79031797547189205232008-10-29T14:57:00.000+01:002008-10-29T14:57:00.000+01:00Stella, there is poetry in perfume, why not metaph...Stella, there is poetry in perfume, why not metaphysics? I can't say I've read Heraclitus -- only saw some references in books, but I love the idea of the tiny green gem of physis. Maybe if Helg drops by she could elaborate, I'm sure she knows the pre-Socratics inside out.carmencanada /Grain de Muschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04046101625425953248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-43790642074039864262008-10-29T09:34:00.000+01:002008-10-29T09:34:00.000+01:00Ps: physis is also literally plantlike, like a tin...Ps: physis is also literally plantlike, like a tiny little green germAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-10609005993935689562008-10-29T09:30:00.000+01:002008-10-29T09:30:00.000+01:00Your pinpointing of Onda's secret, the note of spr...Your pinpointing of Onda's secret, the note of spring-like purity soaring out of a leathery brew - it reminds me of Heraklit's notion of physis, who loves to hide, but in that opens up the world. But also of the "bark"-painting of German painter Gerhard Hoehme. (profound metaphysics through perfumery!) <BR/><BR/>After reading this wonderful review I know I must try this. sometime. Thank you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-28510259092386136452008-10-29T07:52:00.000+01:002008-10-29T07:52:00.000+01:00Jarvis, this structure thing is what you start per...Jarvis, this structure thing is what you start perceiving beyond just "reading" the notes, right? It's only starting to appear to me more clearly, which opens up fascinating vistas.carmencanada /Grain de Muschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04046101625425953248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-27895809532940080302008-10-29T07:48:00.000+01:002008-10-29T07:48:00.000+01:00C., the muguet was an epiphany. I wrote to Vero to...C., the muguet was an epiphany. I wrote to Vero to confirm that there was, in fact, muguet, and there was. I thought my nose was hallucinating: I've had Onda for over a year and had never noticed before.<BR/>What you say is very true: pure, sincere but never simple is an excellent way of qualifying Vero's compositions.carmencanada /Grain de Muschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04046101625425953248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-89866333900591590302008-10-29T07:46:00.000+01:002008-10-29T07:46:00.000+01:00Lunarose, that's serendipitous! I named mine Kiki ...Lunarose, that's serendipitous! I named mine Kiki because I met the man who gave her to me at the wedding of a friend who'd written a biography of Kiki de M. He was a Flaubert specialist and I had settled on the name Salammbô, but when I saw her funny little face, I knew she had to be the impertinent Montparnasse-by-way-of-Burgundy muse!carmencanada /Grain de Muschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04046101625425953248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-72498244424913537852008-10-29T07:43:00.000+01:002008-10-29T07:43:00.000+01:00Scentscelf -- I had to try to rise to the challeng...Scentscelf -- I had to try to rise to the challenge of all that good writing, didn't I?<BR/>Do try Vero's fragrances: the samples are actually good value because they're so concentrated. A drop is literally enough!carmencanada /Grain de Muschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04046101625425953248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-38595713462784881322008-10-29T06:36:00.000+01:002008-10-29T06:36:00.000+01:00D -- what a lovely tribute to a truly wonderful fr...D -- what a lovely tribute to a truly wonderful fragrance. Love what you said about the hydroxycitronellal, too. And which really speaks to how perfume needs structure and space into which to unfold, to elevate it from just a good smell to a great fragrance. :-)Jarvishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08320628861633769796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-35902465622427119472008-10-29T04:51:00.000+01:002008-10-29T04:51:00.000+01:00D., Hats off to you. A stunning post, esp your rem...D., Hats off to you. A stunning post, esp your remark re muguet. Vero's scents are at once Chinese boxes, Jamesian narratives and incredibly pure and sincere like Sophie Täuber-Arp artworks -- just never simple. And like the aforementioned, they usher us into not-so-simple situations where the question trumps the answer every time.Vetivressehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13184229271272395673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-70372641230357159332008-10-29T03:41:00.000+01:002008-10-29T03:41:00.000+01:00i hope this isn't too off-topic, but i just gasped...i hope this isn't too off-topic, but i just gasped when i read you called your kitty 'kiki' after the famous model.<BR/><BR/>my first kitty's 'official' name was namaste (i named her when she was a few weeks old). however, after she grew into her mature tortoishell mainecoon extravagant gorgeousness i found myself referring to her as 'kiki' more often than not. when sitting and viewed from the back, she was very curvy, putting me in mind of the famous photo of kiki de montparnasse from the back with the violin holes painted on her skin.....oh, i miss her.<BR/><BR/>and i find myself observing that scentself has said what i was trying to think, but smarter and written more thoughtfully, for the second time in less than half an hour! it's very refreshing, thank you. i too look forward to your posts.<BR/><BR/>lunaroseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-22612839025546234672008-10-29T01:26:00.000+01:002008-10-29T01:26:00.000+01:00Well, there you go. The answer to "why write abou...Well, there you go. The answer to "why write about it when others have done so well"...is...none of them did what you did. I loved reading your take on Onda. <BR/><BR/>And this may be the post that pushes me to try, even at high sample prices...ScentScelfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12264276265890227820noreply@blogger.com