tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post1130122545255290226..comments2024-03-29T09:11:58.393+01:00Comments on Grain de musc: A Curious Case of Cloning… The Party in Manhattancarmencanada /Grain de Muschttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04046101625425953248noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-4046796763292580402022-11-01T09:05:47.309+01:002022-11-01T09:05:47.309+01:00The bears are made with real roses, and the compan...The bears are made with real roses, and the company says they make the perfect <a href="https://realrosebear.com/collections/rose-bears-for-valentines-day" rel="nofollow">gift for Valentine's Day</a>, Mother's Day, anniversaries, or just because.<br /><br />Rose Bear Gifts was started by two friends who were looking for a unique way to show their appreciation for each other. Now, the company has grown and sells its bears all over the world.<br /><br />If you're looking for a way to show someone you care, a Rose Bear Gift might be just the thing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-79908821380261431242009-05-11T08:15:00.000+02:002009-05-11T08:15:00.000+02:00March, nah, you're not losing your mind, you just ...March, nah, you're not losing your mind, you just have a family... ;-)<br />My sample comes from Tara's bottle which is 4/5 months old, so probably the "new"? Dunno...carmencanada /Grain de Muschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04046101625425953248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-62195047578819328742009-05-11T03:44:00.000+02:002009-05-11T03:44:00.000+02:00Denyse, very late (I thought I commented but didn'...Denyse, very late (I thought I commented but didn't, I must be losing my mind.) I am wondering about Zazie's reformulation comment. I only had a small sample of the first and as you saw in our review it was quite dirty to my nose. Then recently I got two samples from LuckyScent in a package -- The Party and The Ten. And I kept smelling PIM and wondering how my perception of the fragrance had changed so much! I mean, it's lovely, but it doesn't smell like I remember it. Hmmm. My tiny original sample is long gone.Marchhttp://www.perfumeposse.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-26287883755431413922009-05-10T18:08:00.000+02:002009-05-10T18:08:00.000+02:00LisaCarol, see above! The Party is smaller and doe...LisaCarol, see above! The Party is smaller and doesn't come cheaper. Also, the current Profumo is not so similar to it as the old one.<br />Pfff...carmencanada /Grain de Muschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04046101625425953248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-11219646336526020592009-05-10T18:06:00.000+02:002009-05-10T18:06:00.000+02:00Mediteranea, the Party is even more expensive, at ...Mediteranea, the Party is even more expensive, at $265 for 50 ml... I'm sure there are a lot of excellent materials in it, but a hefty part of the price must go into that handmade packaging...carmencanada /Grain de Muschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04046101625425953248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-64618971523835989102009-05-10T16:56:00.000+02:002009-05-10T16:56:00.000+02:00Interesting discovery! I'd never heard of this "pa...Interesting discovery! I'd never heard of this "party", but considering the premise I'd sure like to join it! But what about availability and, ahemn, price? Profumo is at the top of my wish list, but it's so expensive, and such a huge bottle; a smaller scaled version would be much welcome. <br />As far as I can see on their site (pretty nice one at that, exactly my thing) you have to go to Italy to get it..LisaCarolnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-44074301120534770882009-05-10T13:08:00.000+02:002009-05-10T13:08:00.000+02:00Rose, unfortunately, Profumo is not that cheap. Th...Rose, unfortunately, Profumo is not that cheap. The 100ml bottle costs 235 euros. <br /><br />I love Profumo and own *lots* of the old stuff. You guys made me curious about the Party now...Mediterananoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-13426879967152790082009-05-08T20:05:00.000+02:002009-05-08T20:05:00.000+02:00Ok, so they may not be clones, just twins!Ok, so they may not be clones, just twins!carmencanada /Grain de Muschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04046101625425953248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-10626211262844296672009-05-08T19:24:00.000+02:002009-05-08T19:24:00.000+02:00Hi, D -- no, it's the pre-reformulation Profumo.Hi, D -- no, it's the pre-reformulation Profumo.Jarvishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08320628861633769796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-56391198006986601142009-05-08T17:32:00.000+02:002009-05-08T17:32:00.000+02:00Jarvis, is this the new Profumo? It's quite a bit ...Jarvis, is this the new Profumo? It's quite a bit cleaner than the old one.carmencanada /Grain de Muschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04046101625425953248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-22817237539664825552009-05-08T15:55:00.000+02:002009-05-08T15:55:00.000+02:00Just adding, D: hours later the drydown of TPIM is...Just adding, D: hours later the drydown of TPIM is *quite* dirty/sweaty, in a very nice way. In contrast, Profumo has quietly left just a hint of powder and musk...Jarvishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08320628861633769796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-25488837606988427532009-05-08T14:44:00.000+02:002009-05-08T14:44:00.000+02:00Donanicola, I totally agree about the new Profumo ...Donanicola, I totally agree about the new Profumo being brighter and "cleaner": it was, in a word, modernized. I'd say I love both versions, with a slight preference for the older one. You're right to bring up Diorella as well, though it is a lot less "meaty" -- Roudnitska was relentlessly paring down his formulas at the end of this career.<br />About Que Sais-Je?, yes, I might review some day, good idea... I do get a lot of jasmine from it though.carmencanada /Grain de Muschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04046101625425953248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-26821101979390798092009-05-08T14:14:00.000+02:002009-05-08T14:14:00.000+02:00donanicola reporting back - goodness I smellt wond...donanicola reporting back - goodness I smellt wonderful when I went to bed last night! I have a sample of the latest Profumo and it is alot brighter up top (on me anyway) than either TPIM or Jubilation. I would wear this Profumo to the office (have done)and not worry that it will turn skanky as TPIM and J25 have a sneaky habit of doing. Having said all that the familial resemblance rings as clear as a bell (with Mitsouko and Diorella in the background). I also tried Q S-J? and revelled in its mossy/chypre depths but could detect no floral notes. I wondered if you would consider doing a review of Q S-J?. Helg at the Shrine and Angela at NST have both written about it but I'd love to read your take.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-18287219263518006282009-05-08T10:14:00.000+02:002009-05-08T10:14:00.000+02:00Rose, bear in mind that I was talking about the Pr...Rose, bear in mind that I was talking about the Profumo from the old stock: the one that's available now is a little different, and not so similar to TPIM. That said, the new Profumo is beautiful, just less chypre-ish.carmencanada /Grain de Muschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04046101625425953248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-40316759429229744822009-05-08T10:01:00.000+02:002009-05-08T10:01:00.000+02:00interesting... I think the ADP will be a lot cheap...interesting... I think the ADP will be a lot cheaper than the Party which is more expensive than gold as far as I can tellRosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08459305021803770946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-73307146176679268502009-05-08T08:44:00.000+02:002009-05-08T08:44:00.000+02:00Jarvis, natural, schmatural. I'm sure there are a ...Jarvis, natural, schmatural. I'm sure there are a lot of them in TPIM, it does smell rich enough, but I never heard of a lactone crop!<br />Cloning may have been a bit too strong a word, but clearly Mr. Party wanted to reprise the style of Profumo, and did.carmencanada /Grain de Muschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04046101625425953248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-57103346591160491362009-05-08T08:40:00.000+02:002009-05-08T08:40:00.000+02:00Melissa, I don't have enough TPIM to spritz, so I ...Melissa, I don't have enough TPIM to spritz, so I can't get much of the dirty drydown... Pity, I can always stand a little dirty!carmencanada /Grain de Muschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04046101625425953248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-55869847678621281262009-05-08T07:13:00.000+02:002009-05-08T07:13:00.000+02:00Hi, D. Thanks for shedding some light on the conne...Hi, D. Thanks for shedding some light on the connections between The Party In Manhattan and AdP Profumo. As soon as i read your review, I had to go back and compare them side by side. At first I found them sufficiently different to forgive myself for not having noticed the similarity between these two when I tested them earlier. The Party In Manhattan seems fruitier up and creamier up front, and AdP Profumo seems spicier. (I hadn't before noticed that "banana" aspect in TPIM, but as soon as I read it in your review, *poof* there it was). After a few minutes, though, they both converge on "spicy rich floral with skank." I notice that the website for The Party says this is a "100% natural fragrance." That can't possibly be true? Or perhaps one can say "100% natural" without meaning "there are no synthetics in here."Jarvishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08320628861633769796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-32190630089806486012009-05-08T00:49:00.000+02:002009-05-08T00:49:00.000+02:00I had a small decant of the pre-reformulated AdP P...I had a small decant of the pre-reformulated AdP Profumo, but I must have drained it. I would love to try it side by side with The Party. The familial ties are there with the AdP reformulation, but I wouldn't call them clones. I agree that the newer AdP is brighter than the old and The Party is not a bright scent. <br /><br />I am struck by the close ties between the Party and Jubilation 25, as others have noted. The first time that I spritzed on the Party, I nearly laughed out loud in surprise. It was so familiar! So much like Jubilation, but it still had its own qualities. I haven't yet worn them one on each arm to compare, but if memory serves, the Party has more rich fruit notes than Jubilation. As for the skank meter? On second wearing, I respritzed after an hour or two, then sniffed my arms a few hours later. The drydown was positively naughty.melisand61https://www.blogger.com/profile/12802652658028346558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-8805594685542430472009-05-07T21:12:00.000+02:002009-05-07T21:12:00.000+02:00Starscent, as you know, the chypre family is pract...Starscent, as you know, the chypre family is practically as good as dead thanks to oakmoss restrictions. But I've just discovered a fragrance that reminds me a lot of Miss Dior's drydown, Mazzolari Lui.carmencanada /Grain de Muschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04046101625425953248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-19756907913552495822009-05-07T20:42:00.000+02:002009-05-07T20:42:00.000+02:00Thank you, Carmencanada, for your response about c...Thank you, Carmencanada, for your response about comparisons among certain chypres. Since chypres are right up your alley, is there any one (or two) in particular that you would recommend to an old Miss Dior fan (it need not be similar to that)? Many thanks.Starscentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-68249328263429751102009-05-07T20:28:00.000+02:002009-05-07T20:28:00.000+02:00Starscent, exquisite chypres are right up my alley...Starscent, exquisite chypres are right up my alley! I haven't actually compared the current Profumo, of which I only have a sample, and TPIM. The new Profumo has a brighter, slightly harsher (to my nose) opening than the old one -- I'd say the jasmine probably comes out sooner in it than in TPIT.<br />As for Jubilation, would you believe it was sold in Paris for only a very short time? I never got to smell it properly as they didn't give out samples. So I couldn't tell. Sorry!carmencanada /Grain de Muschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04046101625425953248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-66284834975456740122009-05-07T20:25:00.000+02:002009-05-07T20:25:00.000+02:00Tara, thanks for introducing me to TPIM -- but I s...Tara, thanks for introducing me to TPIM -- but I swear it's practically the same as the Profumo in formula, though as I said, the materials seem to be different.carmencanada /Grain de Muschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04046101625425953248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-76413733153279567332009-05-07T20:24:00.000+02:002009-05-07T20:24:00.000+02:00Zazie, I wasn't aware of it, but Tara below sets t...Zazie, I wasn't aware of it, but Tara below sets the story straight. I would imagine that this type of chypre wouldn't gather a huge following, though of course I don't know the first version.carmencanada /Grain de Muschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04046101625425953248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4922907157797061660.post-19471529621707505662009-05-07T20:22:00.000+02:002009-05-07T20:22:00.000+02:00Donanicola, The Party (and Profumo for that matter...Donanicola, The Party (and Profumo for that matter) isn't identical to Que Sais-je?, but close enough to be drawn from a knock-off formula... I only have the 80s QSJ but I treasure it. Write back when you've played a bit!carmencanada /Grain de Muschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04046101625425953248noreply@blogger.com